http://www.mylot.com/w/keywords/lies+to+live+by.aspx MyLot Discussions About lies to live by en-gb http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1841044.aspx While it is correct that the basis of Genesis is “Babylonica” by the Babylonian historian Berossus and Exodus is based on the historical Egyptian material by Merneptah a clearer picture of what happened is offered through an examination of the texts at Ugarit. Quartz Hill School of Theology is offering us all an insight into these texts over internet and while it has been difficult to discuss the ramification of the Ugarit texts due to the fact they were not available for everyone this has now changed. http://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm Some of the more revealing texts from Ugarit show for example that; “In 1 Kings 22:19-22 we read of Yahweh meeting with his heavenly council. This is the very description of heaven which one finds in the Ugaritic texts. For in those texts the “sons of god” are the sons of El”. In another place it states: “Besides the chief god at Ugarit there were also lesser gods, demons, and goddesses. The most important of these lesser gods were Baal (familiar to all readers of the Bible), Asherah (also familiar to readers of the Bible), Yam (the god of the sea) and Mot (the god of death). What is of great interest here is that Yam is the Hebrew word for sea and Mot is the Hebrew word for death! Is this because the Hebrews also adopted these Canaanite ideas as well? Most likely they did. One of the most interesting of these lesser deities, Asherah, plays a very important role in the Old Testament. There she is called the wife of Baal; but she is also known as the consort of Yahweh! That is, among some Yahwists, Ahserah is Yahweh’s female counterpart! Inscriptions found at Kuntillet ‘Ajrud (dated between 850 and 750 BCE) say: I bless you through Yahweh of Samaria, and through his Asherah!” We also read that: “That Yahwists worshipped Asherah until the 3rd century before Christ is well known from the Elephantine Papyri. Thus, for many in ancient Israel, Yahweh, like Baal, had a consort. Although condemned by the prophets, this aspect of the popular religion of Israel was difficult to overcome and indeed among many was never overcome”. Even more disturbing to some may be that YHWH is described as one of El’s 70 sons; another minor deity: “There is one Ugaritic text which seems to indicate that among the inhabitants of Ugarit, Yahweh was viewed as another son of El. KTU 1.1 IV 14 says: sm . bny . yw . ilt “The name of the son of god, Yahweh.” This text seems to show that Yahweh was known at Ugarit, though not as the Lord but as one of the many sons of El”. The Biblical material is seen for what it is and we can include the fact that while the Theological Schools show that they know who David truly was they keep this from the public: “One of the most famous of the lesser deities at Ugarit was a chap named Dan’il. There is little doubt that this figure corresponds to the Biblical Daniel; while predating him by several centuries. This has led many Old Testament scholars to suppose that the Canonical prophet was modeled on him. His story is found in KTU 1.17 - 1.19.” Here is material which is studied by the people who become your priests or pastors; yet after they graduate and stand on the pulpit they pretend none of these facts exist: Do you feel it is ethical for anyone to stand on the pulpit and pretend they know nothing about these and other contradictions of the Bible? Can you justify having these people tell us about morals and ethics while as Imam or preacher/priest they continue lying to us all? Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:06:10 GMT Gnosisquest http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1710915.aspx Proving that a God does not exist is not the same as proving that there are no God(s). Proving that there is no God would be like proving that there is not a donkey in orbit around the earth waiting to carry the next prophet away. The God of Abraham was supposedly YHWH, represented by the Tetragammaton. About 1400 BCE the tribe known as the Shasu worshipped this same deity among others. Abraham supposedly lived about 2000 BCE; He had Camels (domesticated about 1000 BCE). He visited Gerar, (Founded about 1050 BCE) and it's King Abimelech (Ruled about 850 BCE). Abraham is called Ibrahim in the Quran but the Muslims accepting the Judaic beliefs are as wrong about Abraham as the others. There is no evidence anywhere that a historical Abraham ever existed, there is evidence that the tale is based on several ancient tales so the logical conclusion is no Abraham and since there was no Abraham all three religions are a fraud. All these three religions further go on to praise Moses. There was never a Moses and historians such as D. B. Redford among a great many other believe the foundation of the story was the expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt by a Pharaoh named (A) Moses. When this Pharaoh was found the A and often an Ah was added to the name to remove the obvious connection. The tale of the baby in the crib which floated down the river to become a famous king was Sargon the Great. Other tales are also mixed in the story but we need not concern ourselves with them here. There was no Moses who delivered the Israelites from bondage; there is no record of the tale from before the Babylonian captivity. No Moses means that all three religions are fraud and there is no reason to go any further. The wise king Solomon is also in all three religions and Solomon is a composite person who got his name and wisdom from the great Greek lawgiver Solon; his many wives was modeled from an Egyptian King so this tale is also a composition indicating all three religions are fraud and we need go no further. The fact is there is nothing which can be tested about the three religions which can’t be shown to be fraud. There is a whole book of example’s waiting but for brevity’s sake this should do. These examples indicate that no God as envisioned by these three religious denominations existed. The people who worshipped the God of the Israelites were not monotheistic; they were called Shasu. They most assuredly adopted monotheism during the Seleucid Empire (312-60 BCE) Christians falsified material such as Josephus and “Histories” in order to give them credibility proving that besides having a faulty foundation they are dishonest. Christianity was adopted by Emperor Constantine as soldiers living in a fantasy world after this life are over made better soldiers due to not fearing death. Mohammad proved himself a con-man with the three portents and he founded a religion conning young men to fight for him with a promise of innumerable obedient females in an afterlife. These three religions is an epidemic preventing civilization from coming about. They thwart scientific advancement and stifle spiritual growth. Don’t you think it is about time we employed a sound foundation to base our lives on? Shouldn't we safeguard our children from the terrorism of these three religions? Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:51:44 GMT Gnosisquest